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Message 24996 - Posted: 6 Nov 2006, 5:43:50 UTC

Since about 24 hours ago, when I change the Default General Preferences on this web-site and then press the update button in my Boinc Manager, the messages tab reports that my Scheduler Request has Succeeded, but then does not add the lines saying my preferences have been updated, and, indeed, they have not.
But it does work the other way. If I use another project to change the preferences it does report correctly, and when I press Update Climate, those prefs get transferred to Climate.
I have re-booted twice since the problem was first found, and that has not corrected it.

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Message 24997 - Posted: 6 Nov 2006, 6:31:42 UTC

Changes to Preferences in any Project propagate to all Projects, as you experienced.

I\'m not aware of any Preferences update problems on the CPDN side. Did you remember to click Update Prefs after you made the change and before going to the Manager\'s Update?

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Message 25003 - Posted: 6 Nov 2006, 18:18:14 UTC

Yes. I usually press return, but as a test I pressed the actual button. The screen always refreshes with the red notice that preferences have been updated, but they then do not transfer to my machine.
Someone else with more than one project needs to test this. Make a small change to prefs in CPDN, update Boinc, then update another project in Boinc, and see if the change has propagated to that other project\'s preference pages.

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Message 25005 - Posted: 6 Nov 2006, 18:25:21 UTC

Very strange.

(I can\'t help with the test because this is my only project, now that I\'ve bailed-out of CPDN Seasonal Attribution.)

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Message 25007 - Posted: 6 Nov 2006, 19:57:15 UTC

You could still help, if you want. After making the small change in CPDN general prefs, updating that and then Boinc Manager, that change should then appear in your global_prefs.xml file.

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Message 25009 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 1:28:13 UTC

Hmmmm...

They were having a similar problem at Seti. I think it was related to a server software upgrade.
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Message 25010 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 1:28:32 UTC

Done. It is as you said and worse, the \"Suspend network activity fails to work after that. (Tried on two boxes.)

I\'ll send an email to Carl, though it might be a boinc issue.
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Message 25012 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 3:37:22 UTC

Kathryn - yes, I saw something about this some time ago, but it seems to be ok now (with Seti).
Astro - thanks for the confirmation. You have raised an anomaly. If nothing transfers back to one\'s machine(s), how can the Suspend Network Activity go inactive? There is no option for that in Prefs!

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Message 25013 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 4:36:12 UTC

Martin, FYI: Seems I bucked before I was spurred. Waited a minute or two for \"Suspend network activity\" to take effect on each of the two boxes (long beyond reason in my opinion) before making my last post.

Wasn\'t long enough. Minutes ago, when I went back to check the Runs, thinking to re-boot to set things right, the Messages logs showed that both machines\' network activity suspended seconds short of five minutes after I entered the command. (That suggests some sort of time-out to me.)

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Message 25018 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 11:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 25013.

I tried it out on my work PC (I run SETI@home as well as CPDN right now), and although the red \"update preferences\" doesn\'t show up in messages, the global_prefs.xml file has been updated.

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Message 25020 - Posted: 7 Nov 2006, 18:43:15 UTC

Thanks, Carl.

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Message 25030 - Posted: 8 Nov 2006, 5:09:39 UTC

The red message appears on the preference page after an update, not in Boinc Messages. The black message should appear in B M that the preferences have been updated, which does not happen. And my machine does not get updated. Note, this only seems to happen in updating DEFAULT General Prefernces.

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Message 25032 - Posted: 8 Nov 2006, 13:31:23 UTC
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I\'ve been having a similar preferences problem. I have \'leave applications in memory\' set to yes and in spite of all my attempts, it just won\'t do it, every time it switches to Einstein it says \'removed from memory\'.

It\'s not just cpdn though, it does the same thing with Einstein.
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Message 25037 - Posted: 8 Nov 2006, 23:11:47 UTC

There was a server version that was only passing prefs if a new venue was added or a new task was downloaded. It is fixed in the current head version.
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Message 25041 - Posted: 9 Nov 2006, 5:07:57 UTC

Well, it\'s still not working now. And another funny thing - when I try the new combined display, there is no column designated \"Default\", but one called \"General\", and NONE of my set preferences appear in there.

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Message 25043 - Posted: 9 Nov 2006, 8:21:52 UTC

\'combined display\' ?
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Message 25045 - Posted: 9 Nov 2006, 9:40:34 UTC

Yes, that\'s what I thought too.
There seems to be something new here that we don\'t know about yet.

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Message 25049 - Posted: 9 Nov 2006, 17:19:34 UTC

Go to the User Home page which has the heading
Welcome to the climateprediction.net BOINC user pages! at
http://climateapps2.oucs.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/index.php

Under the heading Returning participants click on
Your account - stats, preferences
then under the heading Preferences click on
General preferences specify when and how BOINC uses your computer View or edit.
The last line in the headings says
Primary (default) preferences (Switch View).
Click on Switch View.

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Message 25050 - Posted: 9 Nov 2006, 18:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 25013.
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AstroWX said:

Martin, FYI: Seems I bucked before I was spurred. Waited a minute or two for \"Suspend network activity\" to take effect on each of the two boxes (long beyond reason in my opinion) before making my last post.

Wasn\'t long enough. Minutes ago, when I went back to check the Runs, thinking to re-boot to set things right, the Messages logs showed that both machines\' network activity suspended seconds short of five minutes after I entered the command. (That suggests some sort of time-out to me.)

I have also this problem after I update manually a project with Boinc 5.4.9
I have already reported this problem on the bug site but never had an answer, and I don\'t know if the problem had been corrected in the following versions (don\'t think so as I can\'t suspend network activity on my 5.4.9 linux machine with the 5.7.2 Manager)

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Message 25054 - Posted: 9 Nov 2006, 21:30:05 UTC - in response to Message 25050.


You can set some of your preferences locally (on your computer) if the servers don\'t seem to be doing the job properly. Create a preferences override file in your BOINC directory as described at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/prefs_override.php. Just cut and paste the example file into a text file and name it global_prefs_override.xml.

Use 1 to specify \"yes\" or \"true\", use 0 to specify \"no\" or \"false\". For example, to leave apps in memory you would use <leave_apps_in_memory>1</leave_apps_in_memory>.
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