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Message 32954 - Posted 14 Mar 2008 12:22:38 UTC

    I occasionally get a dialogue box popping up with details of a “Visual-Fortran Run-Time Error” – details below. This doesn’t appear to affect the model’s running but I would hate to think I will get to the end of a calculation and find that the information is useless. I have two PCs running CPDN models though BOINC – both have displayed the error. I have run other applications through BOINC without getting the error, so my conclusion is that there is a CPDN problem. Any suggestions?

    Visual Fortran Run-Time Error

    Forrtl: severe (38): error during write, unit 8 file C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\hadsm3fub_02bc_005934113\\tmp\\pipe_dummy

    Image PC Routine Line Source
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 00632852 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 0062FAE4 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 005EB622 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 005EB23F Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 005D0C11 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 00423B75 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 0040A226 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Kernel32.dll 7C816FD7 Unknown Unknown Unknown

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    Message 32966 - Posted 14 Mar 2008 21:17:42 UTC


      Hi,

      This won\'t affect the integrity of the data, but sometimes people\'s models crash when this happens. I haven\'t seen it myself, and neither have the other moderators, so we\'re not sure what causes this on some PCs.

      Is there anything in common between the two PCs? i.e., which AVs do you use, which graphics cards, is there anything unusual installed on both? Is there anything which is installed in the filesystem stack such as GoBack? Do you run with the Boinc screensaver turned on or off?

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      Message 32970 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 0:15:53 UTC


        Just to answer a different part of your post, you get Fortran errors here because the climate modelling program is written in Fortran.
        You can\'t get it in other programs if they\'re NOT written in Fortran, and very few would be unless they too are scientific programs.


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        Message 32975 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 13:48:46 UTC

          The two PCs are physically different. One is an HP Desktop running Windows XP Home Edition. The other is a Dell laptop running XP Professional. They both have MS Office 93 and a number of other fairly common applications in common (Messenger, AutoRoute, Encarta, WinZip, BT Broadband SoftPhone, BBC iPlayer, Google Desktop etc). There are also some differences in the apps on each machine. The BOINC screensaver is turned on; the BOINC app only runs as a screensaver and thinking about the circumstances, the Fortran error only occurs as BOINC is suspended.

          If you are comfortable that no data will be lost then I won’t worry about the problem too much. Clearing the dialogue box is a mere inconvenience – nothing more. But if there is anything I can test to get closer to the problem, please let me know.

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          Message 32976 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 14:13:10 UTC

            Though the screensaver is interesting, the general advice here is to turn it off, as it slows the model down considerably. BOINC will still run in the background, and the graphics can be started from BOINC Manager when wanted.

            I have had the FORTRAN error once, and it was because an HP printer driver started to run at 100% CPU. One thing therefore to check might be to start Task Manager in Windows and see if anything is running at a high CPU percentage when you\'re not actually doing anything (suspend BOINC).

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            Message 32981 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 20:06:13 UTC

              Hi Wedgwood. You said

              the BOINC app only runs as a screensaver


              The screensaver part of BOINC is just an optional extra, and running it can cause problems (I don\'t know whether it caused your error messages though). The screensaver slows down the processing of the climate model itself and makes graphics problems more likely. I\'d disable it. You can still see your globe when you want to using the graphics button in BOINC manager.

              To increase your chances of completing models, go to the README collections through my signature or Mike\'s.

              * In the READMEs about backups, select a method of backing up your BOINC folder contents regularly. I use Les\'s easy manual method. This way, if a model does crash, a backup can be restored and the model continued. It\'s the only way to get a crashed model crunching again.

              * In the READMEs about crashes and problems, look at item #6 by Mike where he lists all sorts of useful advice. The advice there won\'t necessarily get rid of the Fortran error messages which mysteriously appear on some computers, but it will help you avoid all sorts of other potential problems.
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              Message 32992 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 12:49:45 UTC - in response to Message 32975.

                ...thinking about the circumstances, the Fortran error only occurs as BOINC is suspended.

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                That\'s very interesting, particularly the link to suspending Boinc. If anyone else reports the problem I\'ll cross-reference your applications with theirs to see if there is something in common :-)

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                Message 33015 - Posted 18 Mar 2008 14:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 32992.

                  I have been getting this error for at least three months and I haven\'t bothered contacting anyone because I just rebooted my laptop and it went away for two to three weeks. Well it is back again so I decided I should let someone know about it.

                  First here is the contents of the error dialog. Now this is the sixth or seventh error box that pops up in a row. I didn\'t watch to see if they had different info, I will try to do that next time. This time there was only about eight of these boxes. Sometimes they seem endless and that is when I just reboot because I lose patience in clicking the \'OK\' button. We are talking 20+ boxes.

                  Visual Fortran run-time error
                  fortl: severe (38): error during write, unit 8, file C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\hadsm3fub_036q_005935243\\tmp\\pipe_dummy
                  Image PC Routine Line Source
                  hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 00632852 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                  Stack trace terminated abnormally.

                  Now here is the recent log info from BOINC Manager:

                  3/18/2008 8:17:04 AM|climateprediction.net|Restarting task hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3 using hadsm3 version 506
                  3/18/2008 8:17:07 AM|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: To send trickle-up message. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                  3/18/2008 8:17:12 AM|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
                  3/18/2008 8:17:37 AM|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: To send trickle-up message. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                  3/18/2008 8:17:42 AM|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
                  3/18/2008 8:17:48 AM|climateprediction.net|Sending scheduler request: To send trickle-up message. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                  3/18/2008 8:17:53 AM|climateprediction.net|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
                  3/18/2008 8:26:43 AM|climateprediction.net|Computation for task hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3 finished
                  3/18/2008 8:26:43 AM|climateprediction.net|Output file hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3_1.zip for task hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3 absent
                  3/18/2008 8:26:43 AM|climateprediction.net|Output file hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3_2.zip for task hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3 absent
                  3/18/2008 8:26:43 AM|climateprediction.net|Output file hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3_3.zip for task hadsm3fub_036q_005935243_3 absent

                  Finally, here is my System Information:

                  System Information report written at: 03/18/08 08:57:45
                  System Name: NIVEK-PAD
                  [System Summary]

                  Item Value
                  OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
                  Version 6.0.6000 Build 6000
                  Other OS Description Not Available
                  OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
                  System Name NIVEK-PAD
                  System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
                  System Model HP Pavilion tx1000 Notebook PC
                  System Type X86-based PC
                  Processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56, 1800 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
                  BIOS Version/Date Hewlett-Packard F.18, 7/20/2007
                  SMBIOS Version 2.4
                  Windows Directory C:\\Windows
                  System Directory C:\\Windows\\system32
                  Boot Device \\Device\\HarddiskVolume1
                  Locale United States
                  Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = \"6.0.6000.16407\"
                  User Name Nivek-Pad\\Nivek
                  Time Zone Central Daylight Time
                  Total Physical Memory 1,982.00 MB
                  Available Physical Memory 850.89 MB
                  Total Virtual Memory 4.09 GB
                  Available Virtual Memory 1.81 GB
                  Page File Space 2.23 GB
                  Page File C:\\pagefile.sys

                  As the previous poster indicated, I don\'t seem to be more concerned other than having to click a few \'OK\' buttons or at worst a reboot. So you aren\'t really inconvienencing(sp?) me much in the scope of my life. If this is helpful in solving any other issues you might be having, than that is my eventual reward.

                  Have a great day. Kevin

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                  Message 33016 - Posted 18 Mar 2008 15:17:45 UTC

                    Kevin,

                    Your portable computer has been having rather a miserable time: 30 models have got nowhere fast, whereas your XP machine has done much better. There are potential problems with BOINC on Vista, for which work-arounds are described in the Vista section of the \'Crashes and other problems\' README. The latest BOINC version also has some Vista fixes.

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                    Message 33017 - Posted 18 Mar 2008 18:39:36 UTC - in response to Message 32975.


                      That\'s one thing in common from the previous poster - they are both HPs. But one is a laptop and the other a desktop.

                      What other software do you run - any from this list? MS Office 93, Messenger, AutoRoute, Encarta, WinZip, BT Broadband SoftPhone, BBC iPlayer, Google Desktop ... ? Any others?

                      Which antivirus / firewall solution do you use? Have you got anything unusual installed which affects the filesystem (such as GoBack?)


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                      Message 33042 - Posted 20 Mar 2008 19:39:44 UTC

                        I have, in the past, had an occasional Visual Fortran Run-Time Error - from memory about 3 occurrences with the last one being a year ago - and in each case I treated them as one-off anomolies since they caused no apparent long-term problem and I went on to complete the model satisfactorily.

                        However, I have, quite coincidentally, just managed to generate a series of them, and I know exactly how I did it.

                        Usually, when I apply any updates to Windows or to antivirus software, or any other significant software, I suspend BOINC and then Exit BOINC before applying. I never have software updates set to be applied automatically. But, with a lapse in concentration yesterday, although I had suspended BOINC, I had failed to exit it when I applied 3 software updates. They were actually related to MS Office. After the update, I resumed BOINC and the Visual Fortran Run-Time Errors popped up repetitively until I closed BOINC and reloaded Windows, since when they have not recurred.

                        Could Wedgwood Blue have some updates set to be automatically applied?

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                        Message 33055 - Posted 23 Mar 2008 4:49:37 UTC

                          Okay I have had it repeat and this time something different to report. First you were asking about what other programs I was running. I was running Windows Live Messenger and Norton Internet Security ver. 10.2.0.30 and these others.
                          avant.exe
                          asghost.exe
                          realsched.exe
                          ccapp.exe
                          qlbctrl.exe
                          hpwamain.exe
                          wifimsg.exe
                          hpqtoaster.exe
                          hpwuschd2.exe
                          qpservice.exe
                          ituneshelper.exe
                          jusched.exe
                          sm56hlpr.exe
                          teatimer.exe
                          btstackserver.exe
                          bttray.exe
                          msascui.exe
                          msnmsgr.exe
                          wordpad.exe
                          sidebar.exe
                          yahoowidgets.exe
                          ehmsas.exe
                          ehtray.exe
                          explorer.exe
                          rthdvcpl.exe
                          dwm.exe
                          msinfo32.exe
                          rundll32.exe
                          taskeng.exe
                          aawservice.exe
                          applemobiledeviceservice.exe
                          appsvc32.exe
                          audiodg.exe
                          ccsvchst.exe
                          csrss.exe
                          hadam3_um_5.03_windows_intelx86.exe
                          hadam3_um_5.03_windows_intelx86.exe
                          hadcm3transum_5.44_windows_intelx86.exe
                          hadcm3transum_5.44_windows_intelx86.exe
                          hadsm3_um_5.06_windows_intelx86.exe
                          hphc_service.exe
                          hpqwmiex.exe
                          ipodservice.exe
                          lsass.exe
                          lsm.exe
                          lssrvc.exe
                          presentationfontcache.exe
                          qpcapsvc.exe
                          qpsched.exe
                          sdwinsec.exe
                          searchfilterhost.exe
                          searchindexer.exe
                          searchprotocolhost.exe
                          services.exe
                          slsvc.exe
                          smss.exe
                          spoolsv.exe
                          svchost.exe
                          symlcsvc.exe
                          syntpenh.exe
                          system
                          system idle process
                          tabtip.exe
                          taskeng.exe
                          usnsvc.exe
                          wininit.exe
                          winlogon.exe
                          wisptis.exe
                          wlanext.exe
                          wmiprvse.exe

                          What was different this time is that I had just been using my laptop in the unplugged mode and it had gone into hibernation. When it came out of hibernation is when I received about eight pop up boxes with the following:
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                          Visual Fortran run-time error
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                          forrtl: severe (38): error during write, unit 8, file C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\hadsm3fub_03nv_005935860\\tmp\\pipe_dummy Image PC Routine Line Source
                          hadsm3_um_5.06_wi 00632852 Unknown Unknown Unknown

                          Stack trace terminated abnormally.

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                          OK
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                          I just took a look at the README file and I will do at least two of those right away. I will uninstall BOINC and then reinstall the upgrade and install it outside of the \\program files\\ folder. I will let you know how that goes. Thanks for your information. kevinH
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                          Message 33056 - Posted 23 Mar 2008 10:15:53 UTC


                            I see Messenger is in common with the earlier reports too, but that may be simple coincidence since messenger is very common.

                            Regarding hibernation, I\'d recommend either disabling it, or shutting down boinc prior to hibernation (ditto with other sleep modes).

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                            Message 33573 - Posted 25 Apr 2008 2:45:34 UTC - in response to Message 33056.

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                              I also got a similar message \"forrtl, severe (38) error during write ...\" with a different stack trace. The error box appeared a few more times while climateprediction was running, and them stopped appearing.

                              That work unit ended very early with a Status of \"computation error\", about 7% done really.

                              I was not hibernating (it is desktop).

                              Michael E.


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                              Message 33575 - Posted 25 Apr 2008 7:37:20 UTC


                                What software do you use on the PC? (i.e., which A/V, firewall, and anything else which is running for a long time?)

                                Are they associated with anything happening on the PC, such as an update?

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                                Message 33584 - Posted 26 Apr 2008 1:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 33575.

                                  I started the Task manager, opened the Ptrocess tab, and noticed that indeed there was a software update running, \"Update for HP agent\".

                                  The PC is running Windows XP SP2, Home Entertainment Edition. A/v software is Norton Internet Security.

                                  I have been trying to run that system at 90% processor.

                                  Should I turn off the update agent and run it manually only?

                                  Mike, I sent you a private message with more details.
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                                  Message 33585 - Posted 26 Apr 2008 4:28:34 UTC


                                    The problem is not the automatic updates, it\'s the automatic re-boot needed by a lot of programs to make the changes work.
                                    Re-booting the computer while BOINC (and the model), is running, is asking for trouble, as the OS doesn\'t allow enough time for BOINC, (and the programs data files), to close nicely.


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                                    Message 33588 - Posted 26 Apr 2008 9:26:36 UTC


                                      Hi Michael,

                                      I\'ve forwarded your PM to Tolu since it has some interesting information.

                                      Could I recommend that you set up Norton A/V so that it does not scan the Boinc folders? This is done via the two \'exclusion lists\' (one list for automated scans, and the other for manual scans). It is possible that Norton is taking exclusive locks out on the project data files, and thereby preventing the system from writing to the file. (I don\'t know if this is causing your particular problem, but it has been implicated in crashes before).

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                                      Message 33596 - Posted 27 Apr 2008 13:46:42 UTC - in response to Message 33588.

                                        OK, on my PC, I did the following:
                                        + Stopped the HP auto update process. I will run it manually.
                                        + Excluded the NAV scans from scanning the C:\\Program files\\BOINC directories.
                                        + BOINC preferences are back at 100% CPU use.

                                        Is there a particular subdirectory I should exclude below C:\\Program files\\BOINC or exclude the whole tree?

                                        I can provide some Fortran suggestions on how handle the write error.

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                                        Message 33600 - Posted 27 Apr 2008 16:43:59 UTC


                                          I think what they\'d like to do is to have some way to intercept all Fortran I/O calls and handle the exceptions from them at low level. It would be impossible to change each call individually, given the million lines of code written over 30 years by meteorologists...

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                                          Message 33601 - Posted 28 Apr 2008 2:36:11 UTC - in response to Message 33600.

                                            In the run-time message my PC incountered (like the original poster), it was a write to unit 8. The file path and name was C:\\Program files\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\hadsm3fub_jjy2_005943981\\tmp\\pipe_dummy

                                            On my PC, that file exists as a zero-length file.

                                            Also, on a different work unit today, I noticed a message in the message tab from climateprediction.net something like \"failed to initialize DLL\" and \"if this recurs, reboot your computer\". So, I rebooted.

                                            My desktop system is not rebooted often. Also, the PC uses climateprediction.net and another BOINC project.


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                                            Message 33602 - Posted 28 Apr 2008 7:06:35 UTC - in response to Message 33601.

                                              ...

                                              Also, on a different work unit today, I noticed a message in the message tab from climateprediction.net something like \"failed to initialize DLL\" and \"if this recurs, reboot your computer\". So, I rebooted.
                                              ...


                                              The \'failed to initialize DLL\' message is misleading. There used to be a message called \'Exited with zero status and no result file\', but due to a bug in the Boinc client from around 5.10 onwards, the DLL message appears instead.

                                              A rather simple bug :

                                              if (result_code = 2) ()

                                              rather than

                                              if (result_code == 2) {}

                                              It has been fixed in the V6 branch (which is not yet ready for release), but for some reason has not been fixed in the V5 branch. The Boinc core client is maintained by Berkeley.


                                              The meaning of \'Exited with zero status...\' is that the science app exited, but without setting the \'completed\' flag. The most common reason for this is the system time sync - when setting the clock backwards, even by a few milliseconds, Boinc forces all the science apps to close down for a moment. I\'ve modified my time sync to only happen once per week.


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                                              Message 33627 - Posted 1 May 2008 11:31:47 UTC

                                                I have been getting a similar error box message for about a week. I click on \'OK\' and the model appears to continue to run. I think it occurs when the screensaver kicks in, the timing is about right. The actual message is:

                                                Visual Fortran run-time error

                                                forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 20, file C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\hadsm3fub_jjk7_005943482\\fort.20
                                                Image PC Routine Line Source
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 005459E2 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 00542C74 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004EABDE Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004EA7FB Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004DEC09 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 0043FA75 _read_pp_header 5421 pptoanc1.f
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004398fb _anc_fld 2381 pptoanc1.f
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 00437DCB _pptoanc 981 pptoanc1.f
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004034DA Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004031F3 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 00531C4B Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                kernel32.dll 7C816FD7 Unknown Unknown Unknown

                                                I am also running another application under BOINC that doesn\'t appear to have any problems. I also am running another PC with the same basic setup, but ClimatePrediction.net isn\'t getting an error on that PC. Any ideas on what is causing this and how to eliminate it?


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                                                Message 33631 - Posted 1 May 2008 13:20:33 UTC - in response to Message 33627.

                                                  forrtl: severe (24): end-of-file during read, unit 20, file C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\climateprediction.net\\hadsm3fub_jjk7_005943482\\fort.20
                                                  Image PC Routine Line Source
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 005459E2 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 00542C74 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004EABDE Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004EA7FB Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004DEC09 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 0043FA75 _read_pp_header 5421 pptoanc1.f
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004398fb _anc_fld 2381 pptoanc1.f
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 00437DCB _pptoanc 981 pptoanc1.f
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004034DA Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 004031F3 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                  hadsm3_se_5.06_wi 00531C4B Unknown Unknown Unknown

                                                  hadsm3_se only runs during the end of phase post-processing for slab models and \'fort.20\' is used a temporary file. It looks like there was a problem with the data it\'s created from that caused it to be shorter than expected.
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                                                  Message 33753 - Posted 13 May 2008 12:14:17 UTC

                                                    if got a similar problem too.
                                                    servere(38) error during write....

                                                    On my system kaspersky-antivirus ist running an because of network-preferences i´m not allowed to exclude my BOINC-folder or subfolders.

                                                    What can i do to run cliamteprediction-work as well as seti-workunits (which won´t produce errors?

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                                                    Message 33755 - Posted 13 May 2008 13:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 33753.

                                                      ... On my system kaspersky-antivirus ist running an because of network-preferences i´m not allowed to exclude my BOINC-folder or subfolders.

                                                      What can i do to run cliamteprediction-work as well as seti-workunits (which won´t produce errors? ...

                                                      If the BOINC folders cannot be excluded, then it is possible to use the BOINC Manager preferences (i.e. \'processor usage\') to suspend the model during the period when the anti-virus application does a scan. That may help.

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                                                      Message 33779 - Posted 15 May 2008 11:40:13 UTC

                                                        I just reset the project each time it does this. I suspect other users just dump the project or shrug. This relationship is supposed to be lightweight on our part. I read this is i/o errors, access conflicts, boinc, time sync, etc., some postings explaining log messages that are not related.

                                                        Don\'t you think it\'s time for a FAQ, if not a fix?
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                                                        Message 34871 - Posted 2 Sep 2008 16:39:56 UTC

                                                          I have been receiving the same error sporadically for the last week. As I started writing this, the error popped up 5 times in 10 seconds. I have a desktop Vista home premium. I am running latest version of BOINC. CPDN and World Community Grid are the only 2 clients that are running.

                                                          My power setting is for \'high performance. Computing preferences set preferentially high for CPDN.

                                                          Examining test manager, my active BOINC clients are the only tasks using the processor. I did however, see a stray hadcm3transum project sitting in memory but not using any processor time, that was not one of the currently active CPDN projects.

                                                          My monitor is using \'photos\' screen saver.
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                                                          Message 35003 - Posted 16 Sep 2008 11:11:12 UTC

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                                                            Hello

                                                            I have been getting this same kind of message (error 38, kernel32) for a few days. I have successfully crunched one task before, without any message. Nothing has changed on my system, but I did change one thing in the BOINC options: I told it to suspend calculations instead of calculating all the time, although I am not sure the error appeared exactly when I changed this option or if this is a coincidence. I am using XP Home SP3, Avira AntiVir PE and Outpost Firewall on an ASUS laptop. No Messenger, the laptop is just standing idle, and I am not using any screen saver (Boinc or other). When I set the calculation mode to Idle, the message seems to reappear each time calculations resume, but strangely the message box closes itself as soon as I move the mouse pointer. If I change the calculation mode back to continuous, the error appears even more frequently and I have to close it manually. Another strange thing is that Boinc seems to be trickling, as if the error dd not stop calculations.

                                                            Update: I rebooted the laptop, restarted Boinc in continuous mode and the error disappeared. I switched back to idle mode and still got no error...
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                                                            Message 35467 - Posted 9 Nov 2008 20:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 33017.


                                                              That\'s one thing in common from the previous poster - they are both HPs. But one is a laptop and the other a desktop.

                                                              What other software do you run - any from this list? MS Office 93, Messenger, AutoRoute, Encarta, WinZip, BT Broadband SoftPhone, BBC iPlayer, Google Desktop ... ? Any others?

                                                              Which antivirus / firewall solution do you use? Have you got anything unusual installed which affects the filesystem (such as GoBack?)



                                                              I am having the same error on another HP machine, I wonder if this mainly happens on HP machines

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                                                              Message 35957 - Posted 18 Jan 2009 16:39:09 UTC

                                                                No, it\'s not unique to HP. This morning I\'ve started seeing the same Fortran error. This particular machine I put together with off-the-shelf parts - Asus MB, AMD64 - processor running Windows XP Home Edition.

                                                                I was researching the error in the forum which is how I came across this thread.

                                                                From what I gather, this isn\'t a problem in terms of completing the taks, right? The message tab doesn\'t indicate any sort of problem and the tasks suspend and resume like they should.

                                                                I\'ll do a reboot shortly and see if I get the error again.

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                                                                Message 35963 - Posted 18 Jan 2009 19:30:27 UTC - in response to Message 35957.

                                                                  ... From what I gather, this isn\'t a problem in terms of completing the taks, right? ...

                                                                  ... it depends. The error indicates that something is interfering with the normal running of the climate model. So long as the model stops and restarts then it will eventually complete, though some processing time will have been lost at each restart. However, whatever is causing the problem may also deny the model the resources it needs to run at all or at an important time (e.g. file saving or reading) - and the model may crash.

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                                                                  Message 35994 - Posted 23 Jan 2009 14:42:47 UTC

                                                                    Hi, Also getting follwoing errors lately very often.
                                                                    My task at 44.127%.

                                                                    Inever oncountered this error before but lately I\'m getting this erroe very often and I had to suspend Climateprediction. Because it\'s repeatingly open dialog box and interfering my work.

                                                                    It\'s Message of BOINC client.


                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:27 PM||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:27 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Data directory: d:\\Documents and Settings\\All Users\\Application Data\\BOINC
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Running under account Beggi
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Memory: 1.97 GB physical, 3.82 GB virtual
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Disk: 100.00 GB total, 37.79 GB free
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Local time is UTC +8 hours
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||Not using a proxy
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||No CUDA devices found
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM||No coprocessors
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:28 PM|climateprediction.net|URL: http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID: 931436; location: home; project prefs: default
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:25:33 PM|climateprediction.net|Restarting task hadsm3fub_k5u6_005972353_2 using hadsm3 version 607
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:26:50 PM|climateprediction.net|Task hadsm3fub_k5u6_005972353_2 exited with zero status but no \'finished\' file
                                                                    1/23/2009 10:26:50 PM|climateprediction.net|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.

                                                                    I have attached erroe dialog.
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                                                                    Message 35995 - Posted 23 Jan 2009 15:39:11 UTC

                                                                      The error mentioned in the Message log you posted is a separate issue to Fortran errors, and is covered in the README posts here. exited with zero status is in Crashes and other problems, 4th one down.

                                                                      It\'s possible that the work you\'re doing is causing the model to be interrupted too often. Try Suspending BOINC while you work, or use the option in your Prefs, Suspend work while computer is in use?. Set this to yes, and then set BOINC to Run based on preferences

                                                                      As for Fortran problems, no one has been able to work out why this happens to some computers, on some occasions.
                                                                      It\'s possible that not running the model while you\'re running other programs may help with this as well.


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                                                                      Message 36697 - Posted 12 Apr 2009 8:33:52 UTC - in response to Message 35994.

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                                                                        Hi, Also getting follwoing errors lately very often.
                                                                        My task at 44.127%.

                                                                        Inever oncountered this error before but lately I\'m getting this erroe very often and I had to suspend Climateprediction. Because it\'s repeatingly open dialog box and interfering my work.


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                                                                        1/23/2009 10:26:50 PM|climateprediction.net|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project.

                                                                        I have attached erroe dialog.
                                                                        Thanks




                                                                        I have had the same problem, this work unit was over 67% complete, then it started flashing this error code on the screen. This is the WU ID.
                                                                        Task ID 7749450
                                                                        Name hadsm3fub_ka5z_005977962_3
                                                                        Workunit 6190139
                                                                        Here is a copy of the error message.

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                                                                        Message 36707 - Posted 13 Apr 2009 2:56:38 UTC

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                                                                          Hi Stealth Eagle

                                                                          Your model appears to have crashed just after you posted about it. Whether or not that was related to the visual-fortran message I don\'t know because the 22 exit code is so general that it could mean almost anything.

                                                                          I see you haven\'t got a new model yet. If you have a backup you could restore it, tolerate the popup warning while the model finishes, then reset CPDN after completion.

                                                                          If you aren\'t going to restore a backup I think you should reset CPDN before getting a new model. This popup warning could mean a corrupted file, in which case a reset may clear the problem up.

                                                                          Apologies for the delay in replying.
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                                                                          Message 36712 - Posted 13 Apr 2009 12:55:55 UTC

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                                                                            Thanks Mo.V I will try resetting and see if that helps.
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                                                                            Message 50540 - Posted 17 Oct 2014 1:06:58 UTC

                                                                              I just saw another Visual Fortran run-time error:

                                                                              forrtl: severe (17): syntax error in NAMELIST input, unit 5, C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\climateprediction.net\hadam3p_pnw_w0oy_2004_009086040jobs\xaakm.namlists, line 631 position 0

                                                                              I have a screen cap of the error and its stack trace if you need it.

                                                                              This occurred about 5-6 hours ago.
                                                                              The computer ID is 1095600.
                                                                              The task ID is 17214697.
                                                                              The status is Error while computing
                                                                              The app is UK Met Office HadAM3P-HadRM3P Pacific North West v7.22.

                                                                              The error occurred after about 6 seconds of computing and was reported 17 Oct 2014 0:41:22 UTC.

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                                                                              Message 50747 - Posted 6 Nov 2014 23:49:42 UTC - in response to Message 50540.

                                                                                I've started getting this error as well within the last week. Always:

                                                                                "forrtl: sever (17): syntax error in NAMELIST input, unit 5, file
                                                                                c:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\climateprediction.net\<project #>\jobs\climate.cpdc, line 393, position 19"

                                                                                Running 64-bit 7.2.42, can provide more info if needed.

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                                                                                Message 50753 - Posted 8 Nov 2014 20:23:26 UTC

                                                                                  I keep getting MessageBox error messages from BOINC climateprediction.net.
                                                                                  When I close the MessageBox, within 10 seconds, I get another.

                                                                                  Title: Intel(r) Visual Fortran run-time error
                                                                                  Message:
                                                                                  forrtl: severe (17): syntax error in NAMELIST input, unit 5, file C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\climateprediction.net\hadcm3s_3ufj-1995_2_009136917\jobs\climate.cpdc, line 393, position 19
                                                                                  Image PC Routine Line Source
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 007CCC8A Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 00774F50 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 0077412A Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 00758F59 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 00710A43 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 0053C726 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 0053E2C9 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 0071AC3B Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  KERNELBASE.dll 765A14DE Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  kernel32.dll 74951194 Unknown Unknown Unknown
                                                                                  hadcm3s_um7.24_w 0071AC3B Unknown Unknown Unknown

                                                                                  I have made great effort to record the information correctly, in detail.
                                                                                  If you want window captures, I would be happy to email them.

                                                                                  Here is my computer's System Information, System Summary:
                                                                                  System Information report written at: 11/08/14 15:02:06
                                                                                  System Name: MCCAULEYPNG
                                                                                  [System Summary]

                                                                                  Item Value
                                                                                  OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
                                                                                  Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
                                                                                  Other OS Description Not Available
                                                                                  OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
                                                                                  System Name MCCAULEYPNG
                                                                                  System Manufacturer INTEL_
                                                                                  System Model DG41RQ__
                                                                                  System Type x64-based PC
                                                                                  Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz, 2997 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
                                                                                  BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. RQG4110H.86A.0009.2009.0108.1005, 1/8/2009
                                                                                  SMBIOS Version 2.4
                                                                                  Windows Directory C:\Windows
                                                                                  System Directory C:\Windows\system32
                                                                                  Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume3
                                                                                  Locale United States
                                                                                  Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
                                                                                  User Name MCCAULEYPNG\Drew
                                                                                  Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
                                                                                  Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
                                                                                  Total Physical Memory 3.96 GB
                                                                                  Available Physical Memory 874 MB
                                                                                  Total Virtual Memory 7.92 GB
                                                                                  Available Virtual Memory 2.99 GB
                                                                                  Page File Space 3.96 GB
                                                                                  Page File C:\pagefile.sys

                                                                                  I hope this helps.
                                                                                  If you could use more PLEASE let me know.
                                                                                  Andrew McCauley


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                                                                                  Message 50760 - Posted 9 Nov 2014 5:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 50753.

                                                                                    I'm getting exactly the same error on every single Coupled Model Full resolution job I get. Happens within a few seconds of start. It looks like climate.cpdc is an initial data file for the job, and a batch of bad WUs got out and are being recycled indefinitely. Hopefully they will be tracked down and killed soon.

                                                                                    (is there a function that pulls a job out of circulation when it returns n times with error status?)

                                                                                    It's a pain because it occupies a slot doing nothing useful until I click away all 6 visual Fortran messages.
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                                                                                    Message 50761 - Posted 9 Nov 2014 6:14:42 UTC

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                                                                                      The FORTRAN error, in this case, is because there's a problem running these on Windows systems.

                                                                                      miw.
                                                                                      Yes. Look at the Workunit page for any model. The 6th item down contains the number of times certain things happen for a model.


                                                                                      PS
                                                                                      There's another FORTRAN thread a couple below this one, where it's talked about a bit more.

                                                                                      And a thread in Number crunching on the model type in general here: hadcm3n Full Res Ocean out of memory error.
                                                                                      As you can see from there, there's been a variety of error messages.

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                                                                                      Message 50762 - Posted 9 Nov 2014 8:54:55 UTC - in response to Message 50761.

                                                                                        OK. Thanks. I've disabled this application for now.

                                                                                        I had read the other threads. I don't actually mind if the odd unit fails because the envelope is being pushed, and Was aware that stopping and starting these models was somewhat risky so could also accept the odd bomb at PC restart which happens pretty rarely anyhow.

                                                                                        But this behaviour is 100% mortality, which I had not seen before. I had assumed it was because there was a group of units that were bad, and that they were all that was left in the pool.
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                                                                                        Message 50807 - Posted 12 Nov 2014 9:31:29 UTC

                                                                                          As others are having this problem currently I'm just adding a 'me too'. Been running climate-prediction on this PC for a couple of years with no significant problem.

                                                                                          This morning turned on the screen to see "forrtl severe (17) unit 5 on C:\...\hadcm3s_3if3_2005_2_009099917\jobs\climate.cpdc, line 393, position 19 at: hadcm3s_um_7.24_w 007CC8A, 00774F50, 0077412A, 00758F59, 00710A43, 0053C726, 0053E2C9, 0071AC3B, KERNELBASE.dll 749014DE, kernel32.dll 75F41194, hadcm3s_um_7.24_w 0071AC3B

                                                                                          The job was ~60% complete, on closing the popup it reappeared about 10 times then the job jumped to 100% and finished.

                                                                                          I'm waiting to see what happens when the next climate-prediction job starts.

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                                                                                          Message 50815 - Posted 13 Nov 2014 13:27:05 UTC

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                                                                                            I am also get this too. The last two work units have terminated with errors, first after three quarters of the unit completed the second within four hours of work.

                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for windows_x86_64
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Running under account Jurgen
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 650 (driver version 344.65, CUDA version 6.5, compute capability 3.0, 1024MB, 901MB available, 823 GFLOPS peak)
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 650 (driver version 344.65, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 901MB available, 823 GFLOPS peak)
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Host name: Jurgen-PC
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 syscall nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Memory: 15.00 GB physical, 89.99 GB virtual
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Disk: 931.22 GB total, 357.86 GB free
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Local time is UTC +0 hours
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | climateprediction.net | URL http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1317381; resource share 100
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Reading preferences override file
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Preferences:
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | max memory usage when active: 11519.29MB
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | max memory usage when idle: 13823.15MB
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | max disk usage: 30.00GB
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:17:04 | | Not using a proxy
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:18:15 | climateprediction.net | Computation for task hadcm3n_scuf_1940_40_009114654_3 finished
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:18:15 | climateprediction.net | Output file hadcm3n_scuf_1940_40_009114654_3_3.zip for task hadcm3n_scuf_1940_40_009114654_3 absent
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:18:15 | climateprediction.net | Output file hadcm3n_scuf_1940_40_009114654_3_4.zip for task hadcm3n_scuf_1940_40_009114654_3 absent
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:20:22 | climateprediction.net | update requested by user
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:20:23 | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:20:23 | climateprediction.net | Reporting 1 completed tasks
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:20:23 | climateprediction.net | Not requesting tasks: don't need
                                                                                            13/11/2014 02:20:26 | climateprediction.net | Scheduler request completed
                                                                                            13/11/2014 03:15:01 | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
                                                                                            13/11/2014 03:15:03 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
                                                                                            13/11/2014 03:15:12 | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
                                                                                            13/11/2014 03:15:13 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
                                                                                            13/11/2014 07:29:43 | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
                                                                                            13/11/2014 07:29:43 | climateprediction.net | Requesting new tasks for CPU
                                                                                            13/11/2014 07:29:46 | climateprediction.net | Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
                                                                                            13/11/2014 07:29:48 | climateprediction.net | Started download of hadcm3s_4r8h_1985_2_009181663.zip
                                                                                            13/11/2014 07:29:48 | climateprediction.net | Started download of SPARC_O3_RCP4.5_1979_2021_bs.gz
                                                                                            13/11/2014 07:29:50 | climateprediction.net | Finished download of hadcm3s_4r8h_1985_2_009181663.zip
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                                                                                            Message 50826 - Posted 14 Nov 2014 11:23:18 UTC

                                                                                              If you ignore the 'Intel(R) Visual Fortean' Notice (Leave it alone) work unit will still run. It appears to be a notice letting you know the graphics is not working. But if you click 'ok' or close buttons it will terminate the work unit and return it as an computation error.
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