Hello, I just update my boinc client to 6.2.14, and downloaded a new model.
This crashes immedialtely with this messages:
01.08.2008 18:48:34|climateprediction.net|Starting hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2
01.08.2008 18:48:37|climateprediction.net|Starting task hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2 using hadsm3 version 506
01.08.2008 18:48:42|climateprediction.net|Computation for task hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2 finished
01.08.2008 18:48:42|climateprediction.net|Output file hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2_1.zip for task hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2 absent
01.08.2008 18:48:42|climateprediction.net|Output file hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2_2.zip for task hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2 absent
01.08.2008 18:48:42|climateprediction.net|Output file hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2_3.zip for task hadsm3fub_jvlk_005959083_2 absent

The WU is here:
WU 7560659
Does anyone know what happens here?
My data directory is no longer the same than the program directory.

Legolas13

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With version 6 only just having been relesed, finding answers to problems isn\'t going to be easy for a while.

However this is on the model\'s page: -1073741819 (0xc0000005), which is an old problem.
It usually indicates a problem with the display, and some of the things to check are the graphics drivers, DirectX, and OpenGL compatibility. Mostly the first one; is/are they up to date?

My data directory is no longer the same than the program directory.

This is as it should be, as per this post: Boinc version 6 released - comments thread

Hi, Everyone

I am currently running 2 WUs on a Vista laptop with Intel Core 2 Dou processor. I am very interested in updating to the new version of boinc (6.2.14), but, first I have questions. The post says that the new version of the manager stores the data files separate from the exe. files. As someone who makes daily backups (I have to, my WUs are always restored about a half dozen times) I was wondering how this would change the backup procedures? Also should I wait until I finish my current WUs (currently at 63%) before $I upgrade?

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Not necessary to wait before upgrade. Just backup the entire BOINC folder first. Possibly also to another drive/computer/USB stick.

Only necessary to backup the data folder with version 6, where ever it is now, and whatever it\'s called.

Not necessary to wait before upgrade. Just backup the entire BOINC folder first. Possibly also to another drive/computer/USB stick.

Only necessary to backup the data folder with version 6, where ever it is now, and whatever it\'s called.

Thanks Les.

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Hi,again.

Dear Les

I upgraded to 6.2.14 and it went flawlessly. No problems so far. Model is running fine (crossed fingers). I see that there are only 22 objects (the locale folder and 21 loose files) left in the Boinc folder in Programs.

I finally found the boinc data files by typing C:\\ ProgramData into the Vista search box in the start menu. Can it be reached through Start-Computer-Program files? If so what directory is it hiding in?

One more question. If I should need to do a recovery do I just exit the manager, open the ProgramData folder, delete the entire contents and copy in the entire contents of backup folder, and reboot? Does anything have to be done with the files in the Program Files/Boinc folder?

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Hi Jim

Good to hear that it worked OK. Some people are saying over on the BOINC/dev boards that they\'re having all sorts of problems. But then, they seem to have special setups with hardware and software. And a lot are running Linux.

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No, you can\'t get to the data files that way because they\'re data files. All of the program files are now separate, as required by Vista.

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Restore of a backup is as you surmised.
Nothing needs to be done with or to the program files.

Of course, all of this is what other people, who have been testing V6, have said. It\'ll be a while before I upgrade, because the new V6 complient climate models are still being tested.

EDIT
I\'ve removed the line giving the location of the data files for 1 of the OS types.
All information needed for moving to version 6 of BOINC is contained in the various posts linked to from my first post in this thread.

Hi Jim

There\'s more info about BOINC 6.2.14 here in Jorden\'s FAQ. He\'s adding extra details at the bottom as they crop up on forums.

You\'ll see there that the default location for the data files with Vista is C:\\Program data\\BOINC data.

I\'m not sure what a Vista Start menu contains, but if you have My Computer on your desktop, opening that should with 2 further double-clicks take you to the BOINC Data file.

You should now make backups only of the Data folder. If you have a model crash, don\'t try to restore any previous backup from BOINC 5 because it will contain both BOINC and BOINC data files. Under BOINC 6, the BOINC folder and the BOINC data folder must be kept separate.

So the best idea is to make a new backup ASAP. Exit from BOINC then just follow your usual backup routine but backing up the BOINC data folder only. Name the backup BOINC Data so you\'re sure what it consists of.

A recovery/restore would be your usual routine but deleting the contents of the BOINC Data file only then copying & pasting your backup into the empty Data folder. Which is what you suggested.

The Data folder contains Projects and Slots subfolders, whereas as you\'ve noticed the folder for BOINC itself contains the Locale subfolder, so the two are easy to distinguish by their contents. Tasks eg climate models have all their files in the Data folder. No part of the models is in the BOINC folder.

I don\'t think it\'s worth backing up the BOINC folder, certainly not more than once. It\'s static and doesn\'t change. If something went wrong with our BOINC (as opposed to tasks/models) we\'d probably want to reinstall it.

So the rules are to keep the BOINC and BOINC Data folders separate, and not to mix up BOINC 5 and BOINC 6 backups & restores.

Hope that helps.

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Hi Les

I think the location of the Data files you\'ve given is for XP whereas what I said is for Vista. I\'ve looked at Jim\'s computers and he\'ll probably need both paths for different machines if he upgrades them all to BOINC 6.

If we choose the \'with screensaver\' BOINC 6 install option (not the \'protected\' ie service install option) we will still be able to see the graphics of our current models. If we choose the protected/service install option we won\'t see the graphics of current models.

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Thanks for all the info

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.....It usually indicates a problem with the display, and some of the things to check are the graphics drivers, DirectX, and OpenGL compatibility. Mostly the first one; is/are they up to date?

I use an nVidia 6600 card with up to date drivers, and over the last year I\'ve noticed various issues, such as the CPDN graphical globe not functioning. Sometimes, I just see a few clouds and no planet earth!!

On a few occasions, my model has crashed when opening the graphics application.

However, with 6.2.14, all seems OK with me so far. I only have one model running (HadCM3 Optimised 5.44) - no crashes yet!!

Neil.

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Here\'s Jorden\'s BOINC 6 FAQ. He explains there that in BOINC 6 the graphics app is separate from the science app (= the model) so if the graphics crash, the model itself should continue to crunch.

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Does the new BOINC installer/converter allow the data file location to be specified? It would be great if the data files could be placed on a different HD.

This is mentioned in Screen by screen walkthrough of the v6 service installation, which is the first link at the bottom of this post.

Please note that at the moment, V6 has been withdrawn to fix a problem that happens with some installations.
News item to appear soon.

With version 6 only just having been relesed, finding answers to problems isn\'t going to be easy for a while.

However this is on the model\'s page: -1073741819 (0xc0000005), which is an old problem.
It usually indicates a problem with the display, and some of the things to check are the graphics drivers, DirectX, and OpenGL compatibility. Mostly the first one; is/are they up to date?

My data directory is no longer the same than the program directory.

This is as it should be, as per this post: Boinc version 6 released - comments thread

I never show the graphics on my machine, so the graphic driver, DirectX, and OpenGL should not apply.

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For 107 and -107 errors which have similar causes, I\'d have a look at the precautions and solutions in the READMe collection about crashes and problems. Go straight to items #6 and #7 by MikeMars and Thyme Lawn.

Link to the READMEs in my sig.

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I never show the graphics on my machine ...

Which would mean that you never look at anything on that computer.
\"graphics\" is the modern term for what used to be called \"video display\". Anytime that you use a computer to display text, you\'re using either \"graphics chips\" (on \"all-in-one\" motherboards, e.g. laptops), or a \"graphics display card (unit)\" (GDU).

Highlight the string of numbers starting with 107, and then click the Google icon, (or copy and paste) and you\'ll get a long list of people having problems with it.

It\'s basically a Windows \'stop\' error, and is one of 4 or 5 that all start with 107.

This is one page that I came across just now. It\'s a bit old, but is probably representative.

What I meant was that I don\'t use the Boinc screen savers so no graphics is used for my Boinc projects.
Then the error should not occur.
That was the solution in the link you send me.

Or is there a place where I can disable Boinc screen savers within Boinc (some XML file or something else) instead of just disabling screen savers in the desktop attributes?

Legolas13

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You can have a graphics-related error even when not displaying BOINC project graphics. Have a look at the two README items I suggested. And there are lots of other useful hints there as well as an explanation about how to update the graphics card drivers. It\'s a free update from the web rather like Windows updates.

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Hello,
I did the update of the graphics card driver and after that one new WU (7570266) has been downloaded, which has already sent two trickles,
so I hope that it now run through.

Thanks for all the advices.

Legolas13

You can have a graphics-related error even when not displaying BOINC project graphics. Have a look at the two README items I suggested. And there are lots of other useful hints there as well as an explanation about how to update the graphics card drivers. It\'s a free update from the web rather like Windows updates.

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