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Message 44784 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 12:59:56 UTC

I did the following on that particular host
(http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=419870):

- installed boinc 6.10.58 (previous was 6.4.5)
- extracted libstdc++.so.6 as symlink to libstdc++.so.6.0.10 from libstdclibstdc++-4.3.0-8.i386.rpm
- started boinc with:
LD_PRELOAD=/home/$HIDDENUSER/boinc/kit/boinc/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /home/$HIDDENUSER/boinc >/dev/null 2>&1 &


That libstdc++ version might not work, or even crash, on Fedora 8,
but let's give it a try.

I'll post the results.
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Message 44785 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 13:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 44784.  

Passed up to the project team for re-enabling of work fetch Adi.
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Message 44786 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 14:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 44763.  

No, I don't. But I do a regular shutdown and do not just "cut off power". Usually all programs close their files on a system shutdown request or halt the shutdown process if closing is not possible.
I will give it a try and suspend work on the project before shutdown in the next days.

Are all BOINC projects not capable to cope with a regular shutdown process or is this just climateprediction? I mean, is this a problem of the BOINCManager?

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Message 44787 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 15:17:03 UTC - in response to Message 44785.  

Thank you Thyme Lawn.

I also installed on another host libstdc++ 386 (it's a 64 bit one, it hadn't the compatible one).

I think that, instead of

"no work for your type of computer"

the message to be

"some libraries are missing, please run ldd $name_of_exec_with_missing_libraries to check which one(s)"

The message will be less cryptic (at least for some people :) )...

Or maybe at least

"check <link-on-cpdn-site> for prerequisites to run $app"

Just an idea...
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Message 44788 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 18:03:49 UTC

I was notified of a bad Boinc installation. The link provided was : http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1202494

I have removed the project and re-added it, but don't know if that did anything to fix the problem since it won't complete the download of the application.

What can I do to resolve this issue?

Wes
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Message 44789 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 18:57:23 UTC - in response to Message 44788.  

Wes,

The stderr messages for the failed tasks indicated "couldn't start CreateProcess() failed - Access is denied." Your detaching and reattaching may fix that, but you may also want to exclude the BOINC data folder from being scanned by your antivirus/antimalware software.

We need to let the software people know you have attempted to fix the configuration of that PC before they will allow new tasks to download. See if you can exclude that folder from scanning, and let us know, and we'll let the project people know that they should re-enable downloads.
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Message 44792 - Posted: 1 Sep 2012, 15:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 44786.  

Are all BOINC projects not capable to cope with a regular shutdown process or is this just climateprediction? I mean, is this a problem of the BOINCManager?

Peter,
No. CPDN seems to be unique in the number of large files open simultaneously. (Imagine the number of parameters being modeled, the global grid, vertical layers into the atmosphere and ocean depths, for current model-time and previous time slice, you'll get the idea -- and the necessity. [Numbers for layers and grid vary with model type.])
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Message 44808 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 17:29:48 UTC - in response to Message 44789.  

Thanks geophi,

I have excluded the Boinc data directory from my antivirus program. Can you let the project people know that they can re-enable downloads?

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Message 44809 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 18:54:06 UTC - in response to Message 44808.  

Thanks geophi,

I have excluded the Boinc data directory from my antivirus program. Can you let the project people know that they can re-enable downloads?

Wes

Duly notified.
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Message 44845 - Posted: 19 Sep 2012, 5:15:31 UTC

Apparently I have a misconfigured boinc module.
http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1101060

I've reinstalled boinc.

Other boinc projects seem to be working.

What's my next step?
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Message 44850 - Posted: 19 Sep 2012, 9:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 44845.  

What's my next step?
Just make sure the project is reset before requesting new work. That will clear out any existing data and allow new data to be downloaded (including the applications), which will then have the correct permissions.

Other boinc projects seem to be working.
BOINC say the permissions problem is not their fault, though it was a change at their end that caused this problem for Macs on CPDN. They also say they won't fix it because that would inconvenience existing BOINC projects. I don't quite see the logic of that, since CPDN is an existing project whose (Mac) users have been severely inconvenienced. Nonetheless, CPDN have developed a fix that should emerge soon with a new type of HADAM3P model. As with many permissions issues, "if it ain't hurting, it ain't working": this is the "hurting" section, but tighter permissions will in future prevent other problems. People will not, of course, post about the problems they are not having.

If you post back here to say that the project has been reset then one of the moderators will send a message to the project staff, who will re-enable that machine.
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Message 44884 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 14:04:26 UTC
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I received the messagae saying my Mac was crashing models.

The email suggested I provide this link

http://climateapps2.oerc.ox.ac.uk/cpdnboinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1097264

I just upgraded my BOINC client on my Mac to V7.0.31. Not sure if that helps to address the issue?

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks

Simon
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Message 44885 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 21:46:52 UTC

An example model from that host is hadcm3n_o5i3_2100_40_008139322_1. Expanding the 'Stderr' text reveals reports like the following:

execl(/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/climateprediction.net/hadcm3n_um_6.07_i686-apple-darwin, 132125) failed!

This suggests that the Mac has the permissions problem described in the post immediately before your post. You should follow the suggestions in that post every time you upgrade BOINC Manager, until improved CPDN applications are available that work around the permissions problem.
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Message 44892 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 21:30:43 UTC - in response to Message 44885.  

ok. i have reset the project, so i guess it is eagerly anticipating some work. Do you need to unleash something...
regards
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Message 44893 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 21:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 44892.  

I notified the project people that your PC is ready to go. Unfortunately, right now, the queue on models has run out. Hopefully the supply will get restocked later this week.
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Message 44930 - Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 5:34:35 UTC - in response to Message 44850.  

OK, project reset
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Message 44932 - Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 11:22:09 UTC - in response to Message 44930.  

[John Grey wrote:]OK, project reset

Message duly passed on.
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Message 44940 - Posted: 1 Oct 2012, 17:19:16 UTC - in response to Message 44932.  

[John Grey wrote:]OK, project reset

Message duly passed on.
... and the machine is now enabled. However, there is not any work immediately available.
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Message 45446 - Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 16:20:16 UTC
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Mac: 1192040. Maybe that Mac + BOINC 6.12 issue again?
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Message 45447 - Posted: 12 Jan 2013, 18:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 45446.  

Mac: 1192040. Maybe that Mac + BOINC 6.12 issue again?

Thanks, Belfry: alert passed on.
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